Long time no see !!!

[Chippye]

Hello Trans !!

It seems like i am doing the inverse of everyone here  I am comming back to DAOC after being in WoW since the launching day. WoW is an amazing game, Blizzard did it again, an optimal game for everyone. I really enjoyed being there, the graphics, the feeling, the interface everything seems good, and i really think it is.

But i realized on the way that i need just a bit more out of a game. The community in WoW is too much indepandent (compare to EQ1 and DAOC) and it s , too much solo oriented (has i say it's not the game, it's my feeling!) for what i am looking for. Since you can almost solo any class to 60, you have no concequences for dying and the quests are not deep enough for my taste, i feel like i am almost in a RPG like Morrowind !! And i am not ready to pay $15 a month for that feeling

I really need to feel the needs of other to acomplish, task, quests and the holy PVP that DAOC can provide, i need that crisp in my stomach when i see the situation is about to degenerate and we all gonna die, i need that bigger crisp when that dam Shadowblade appear in your back with a two-handed sword, i need to wake-up at 4am (i did it once for a relic raid !!) to meet 300 more player that are organizing a relic raid !! I really dont get those feelings in WoW right now.

So, there i am... Back in DAOC (with Catacombs expansion) to see if i can get back that nice little feeling Sure that Trans was there for a great part of my fun for the community part, but i ll guess i will meet more nice people, and will hope to see a few of you back... maybe

and also a big WOOOOOOTTTT !!! For Lashnoll for full TRANS membership now !!!

Hope to see you soon guys !!!  

P.S.  Will stick on the boad anyway  )

[Krystalus]

I can understanding your feelings, but this...

 i need to wake-up at 4am (i did it once for a relic raid !!) to meet 300 more player that are organizing a relic raid !!

... No, no I don't understand that at all!  

Hopefully when they patch in the PvP areas in WoW, (all of which will be endgame PvP), I hope you come back and level up to join us!

[Rowah]

Keep us posted Chip!  You were great fun in DAOC and I know personally I wish we could have spent some time together in WoW.  Not to mentioned I enjoyed our Arena night a while back, Dang over powered Paladins!

[Keluvan]

Heya Chippye,

The only thing I really miss about DAoC was the PvP. They did a really good job with it especially with the Frontiers update. However I still having way to much fun in WoW to even consider going back to DAoC. while it is true there is not really a penatly associated with dying other than paying out some extra gold for item repair I have had many fun encounters in some of the higher end instances. And hopefully they will do a good job when they implement the Battlegrounds as that is all that seems to be missing atm for me.

Anyways I hope you have fun back In DAoC and don't be a stranger on the boards

[Wrollin]

Well, sometimes dying in an instance means you've got to go through a load of backspawn if you want to continue.  Or in some cases, if you blow an encounter, sometimes that encounter is locked until you reset the instance.  So there is a lot of pressure in some encounters.

[Lashnoll]

I sure understand the feeling Chip...

Compared to quests like in EQ/DAoC, so far, I don't really feel any great feeling of achievement from WoW quests.. it's like.. woupidou.. quest done, got xp, got that thing I can turn into dust (desenchant).. still have 19more in my log.. NEXT!!!!..

Except for a couple of quests that had good story background and lots of steps and were kind of hard to pull, I don't really feel like I worked hard to complete anything. It feels like everything can be done by doing pretty much anything.. with pretty much anyone.. it's good in some way I guess.. but when I think about those days in EQ and DAoC, where every member of the group had to complement one another and where each of them had to do his job 100% or else it could mean the end of all things.. this was the kind of thing that kept me awake in front of my screen... late late late in the night..

But, as Kel and the others have stated the higher level we get the more it seems like this feeling is coming back.  Starting from Uldaman, instances really start to feel that way. There may not be much penalty related to death, but being whiped in the very last room, after a 4hrs run is really penalizing in some way.. It seems to me like strategy and careful planning will be needed more and more the higher we go.. and the feeling I was looking for is slowly starting to live inside my guts once again..

Anyways.. I can't blame you.. and I admit I'm also tempted.. even more when I think about the last months we spent with the Trans, in the BGs and in PoC.. such great memories that I would really love to live once more..  hopefully, the raid instances and the Battlegrounds will be the awnser to our needs..  I sure will keep you posted about how things are going.. as long as you promise to keep me posted about how things are in DAoC, with Catacombs and all the new stuff that was added!

cheers bro!  

lash

[Rowah]

Slightly off topic here but I have to do it as usual

I think more than anything else I have had a blast in this game due to having spent almost every night in an instance since level 20.

I did more questing outside of instances between lvl 20-30 and then once I hit 40 I can count the nights outside of an instance using my fingers

We often spend 4-7 levels "working" through an instance.  Early on the stuff is hard and we whipe when we dig to deep.  Each night we hone our skills and learn new tricks to our trade.  We have gone through instances where the teamwork and finely honed skills gained throough grouping with folks for hours and hours shows.  Often time a group who hasnt spent as much time together end up with miscommunications or reacting to different situations differently sometimes ending a fight in a whipe  Death stings!  one of the reason I am so poor is I die alot!  Not so much that I am ever poor but it certainly stings!  Its also really nasty as the other have said when you spend 2 hours getting deep into a dungeon come up on the boss fight and die!!! Run back to the instance and the whole first half has respawned!  You normally end up calling it a night and having to fight your way through another night!

where every member of the group had to complement one another

I find this to be immensely true in WoW.  While doing outside world quests its really not tooo much of an issue, there are some where a good group is required .  I normally end up in a group with a somewhat odd configuration, but one that we make work.  2 Druids, 1 Priest , 1 Rogue and fill in the last with a large variety of folks.  Hunter/Druid/Paladin/Warrrior/Mage/Rogue  We have mixed them all in.  The trick is though that alot of people can fill multiple roles.  Druids are diverse and seem to adapt well to multiple roles.  Paladins have made good priamry tanks as well as back up and off tanker.  We generally need to have one person tanking and WoW doesnt mandate that it be a warrior.  Sure having a warrior is wonderfull!!  But having each and every "role" filled is incredibly helpfull as well.  Rogues and mages really help groups take stuff down fast.  Hunters do as well and provide some off tank ability to help manage the dmg being delt to the main tank.

I have found that the PVE encounters in instances have provided the strategic challenge I strive for while allowing me to continue to level at a decent rate!  Raids are ahead and some very tough single group instances we have yet to conquer!  So much fun ahead!

[Lashnoll]

Nicely said Row!  You sure give me some hope!!

I must admit that instances are THE main attraction as far as I'm concerned too.. I'm not always in there though, I also like to explore this vast and incredibly detailed world and learn a bit more about it's lore, but as you have mentionned, instances are starting to get tougher and tougher and it's a thing that I sure appreciate!

My main grudge about WoW so far is the 5persons group.. I know it's because it made it easier for them to balance instances for 5 instead of 8 peoples and that most people don't want to wait to much to have a fg, but as it is now, I have lost count of the times someone had to sacrifice himself and go do something on his own because we were like 6 or 7 online.. it's always heartbreaking and it always force me to think about the good ol' days back in DAoC.. 8 seemed to be the ideal number as far as I'm concerned.. it was like a real party.. a great way to socialize and meet new peoples... while 5 make for less 'socialization', cause you simply fill the slots really quick and with the people you care about the most.. leaving not much place for newcomers... I know we can raid.. but it's not always desired since we can't do quests that way..  but patience is the key.. end game is all about raiding and we will all be reunited soon...

anyways.. speaking about raids (my turn to change subject.. ).. do you think we may be able to schedule one of these on a weekend or friday night?  I know we're not all on the same timeframe,  so on week nights it's a bit more of a hassle to schedule something for everyone, but so far, I've been really sad to miss out on those events (that's what I craved for in DAoC.. PoC runs with 2 fg of Trans.. oh the joy!!).. I don't want you guys to think I dont want to participate or something.. cause it's really not the case.. but 5hrs sleep is a bit less than what I need to be productive at work on the next day..  anyways.. as I'm probably part of the minority on the East Coast, I understand that things can't really be changed.. and also because usually weekend nights are for party and family... but if we could schedule something on a weekend, maybe once a month, it would sure make me happy (and others too I'm pretty sure)!!

btw, I don't want you to think I'm winning or anything.. I just wanted to share my thoughts.. cause missing the event yesterday really made me sad.. =/


Thanks for everything Row, and keep up your excellent work at orchestrating events for the bunch of us!

lash